This episode encapsulates a collection of important conversations that are defining our humanity, and yet are not being held by the developers of these technologies, much less questioned by the global population. In a society where profit comes before ethics, it is quite easy to blur the lines between what we need and what we want, what is wrong and what is right. As you finish listening to this conversation, you will start reflecting and being more critical about the technological developments that are taking place in the world in favor of humankind, or so they say. Technology will always advance, but are we really ready to pay the price?

In today’s episode, Dr. Rosie Sendher and Dr. Erica Fisk are joined by Jenny Kleeman, author of Sex Robots & Vegan Meat, to chat about the four pillars that rule the human experience; birth, food, sex, and death. Kleeman is a documentary film-maker, journalist, broadcaster, and author. She is also the host of the Immaculate Deception podcast, and the weekend Breakfast Show on Times Radio. Kleeman is not only passionate about her profession, but also about the topics she touches on her book, and encourages our listeners to reflect on their own behavior and dependency on technology. She believes humankind is still far away from becoming a slave of technology, but close enough to get uncomfortable and start these important conversations.


Sex Robots & Vegan Meat by Jenny Kleeman

The Social Dilemma

Immortal by Clay Jones

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